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There's an old joke, somewhat risque', that asks if a man forces sex on a prostitute, is he guilty of rape...or only shoplifting? Apparently a Colbert County grand jury held that frame of mind when they failed to indict former UNA student Corey Langley Griffin for raping a woman he had "an arrangement with." This woman "knew her place," and therefore could not be raped?
From a previous blog: Sources with the Muscle Shoals Police Department have stated that former UNA student Corey Langley Griffin, currently accused of rape and awaiting indictment, has two similar previous charges for violence against women. Both a former high school girlfriend from Talladega and a former UNA girlfriend have restraining orders against the one-time high school tennis star. Griffin's response to the charges: "The criminal complaint filed in district court says that Griffin told investigators that he only used the victim for sex, and that she understood her place with him."
Obviously Griffin's previous record was not considered in the indictment. His defense attorney has stated he will not return to UNA where he was suspended pending the outcome of the charges. At least he no longer walks the streets of the Shoals.
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There's an Internet meme that states Bill Gates' dream of a computer in every home in the U.S. has come to fruition, and now we have those with an IQ of 12 pontificating on every issue imaginable. We frequently see this, but nothing brings it home like writing about a heinous crime. We have written several blogs recently concerning Ron Wikkid Weems, the juggalo who has confessed to killing a young woman and dismembering her body at his mother's Muscle Shoals residence. One critic used the comment section to accuse us of having a previous relationship with Weems.
Now this same woman has contacted us on Facebook asking why we would even write about Weems if we didn't know him personally. Yes, we personally know the subjects of all 1,220 of our previous columns...no. Not quite.
If this woman needs our reasons to be spelled out, it's indeed sad for her and anyone else who may be limited to such tunnel vision. Just reading the arrest report of the three so far charged should be sufficient. Those who break the law commit a crime against not only their victims, but society in general. If anyone is not offended by Weems and his happy bunch of clowns, they are seriously lacking not only in brain function, but in the heart department as well.
Shoalanda
Comments welcome. No profanity, vulgarity, or libelous statements...
Too bad it's this opinionated trash rag of a blog that has the IQ of twelve. It tries to come off as real journalism but it's basically by all standards learned in a first year college communications class a propaganda machine regurgitating local news with no fact checking in a biased format which usually makes a total travesty of the way the justice system is supposed to work. Berating it when it doesn't cave to their opinion and extolling it when it does. This is basically a troll cave which needs to have a troll-b-gone bomb thrown in it. Just sayin'......
ReplyDeleteI was a victim of attempted rape, at age 15, and never reported it. Most women do not report rape. If this woman reported this as a rape, chances are she was telling the truth. I was fortunate, in that I fought back and got away. My attacker was left with bloody arms because I scratched the skin off his arms with my finger nails. He could have easily been identified. I was too scared to report it. I did not know him, but he went to my high school.
ReplyDeleteNo libelous statements, eh? Looks like you should check your own rule book, because last time I checked, printing a "quote" that has never been said is considered libel...I weep for the future of the Shoals if "news" like this continues to be printed and more young men's names and lives continue to be tarnished because of shotty "reporting" . The way today's media operates makes me sick. There is no consideration of evidence (or lack thereof) and no accounting for the fact that this story shook the foundation of the University of North Alabama, and the amount of support garnered for Mr. Griffin after the fact. If anyone reading takes one thing away from this comment, it shoould be that these types of legal travesties should not be allowed to happen. In today's world it is nearly impossible for a man's word to be taken over a woman's, even when the evidence is overwhelmingly in his favor. The phrase "innocent until proven guilty" was completely thrown out the window in this case.
ReplyDeleteGriffin's quote was taken from the police report. We doubt the detectives plucked it out of thin air.
DeleteI had doubts about this report when it was originally published. Things just didn't seem to add up and make sense, with what limited information we were given. The young man may be guilty of not being a gentleman, but this doesn't make him guilty of the crime. His quoted statement from the police report only supports my idea further, that this was a "friends with benefits" situation and the accuser was a jealous, revengeful person. When Griffin reiterated their relationship to her she felt ashamed and taken advantage of, so she vengefully made this accusation. I would go after her rear-end with a civil suit for the damage she has put this young man through and collect on it as long as it took to satisfy whatever judgement he may be entitled to. Accusations of any type, specifically rape, damage a person for life and the arrest will always follow him on background checks.
ReplyDeleteThe background check would also show the two previous restraining orders against him.
Delete...and your point?
DeleteThere is the "rule" of innocent until proven guilty.
ReplyDeleteAs this proves with this near libelous "blog" concerning Mr. Griffin, in the twisted world of the "shoalanda" blogosphere:
There is the "rule" of guilty AFTER proven innocent.
Does the "staff" at shoalanda need a bigger shovel?
Griffin was not even found "Not Guilty." He simply was not indicted.
Deletehe was not found not guilty because the evidence didn't even justify the minimum burden to send him to trial! The statement in his self is enough for a warrant of arrest! But I can go to the court house and swear a warrant on anyone for anything! It is so simple to file a warrant! That is why presumption of innocence is so important! What do you expect to be reported in the media? "One of UNA's many man whore scholar athletes has baseless rape accusation pressed against him by one his casual slampieces/sorostitutes". I hate to be vulgar but that is the cold harsh truth of the matter. Sex is an addiction most men have. I'm recovering myself, but god help me i love relapsing!
DeleteOk yall too much anger here. Why not just have an intellectual conversation and debate about the facts without getting so gosh darn angry. Jeepers, life is too short to get so angry.
ReplyDeleteAnybody else think "anonymous" is Corey Griffin himself. Yep, blame the victim. It works everytime.
ReplyDeleteSince there was no crime committed (as the failure of an actual indictment from the grand jury establishes) the ONLY victim involved in this smear campaign is Corey Griffin who is being victimized publicly like so many others have in the past by the CYBER BULLY blog post of Shoalanda.
DeleteObviously you have no idea how a grand jury works. The only thing established was that the grand jury found insufficient evidence to indict. Do you think it would be so if his two previous scrapes with the law had been admissible? No, physical abuse is not on the same level with rape, but it's often a precursor to it.
DeleteIt is horrible that so many people ignorant to the facts make such bold statements. I am not here to bash, but merely to debate your facts and opinion as an adult. It is not your fault for thinking this way. The community has been biased by the few less than professional articles presented by the timesdaily. And the family and Mr. Griffin (I have heard) were advised to not comment on the matter at all. I would hope most Christians would pray for them no matter what side of the issue you are on. Mr Griffin's previous relationship should be kept out of a case as serious as this unless you know the whole story behind it. The relationship/restraining order stemmed from a very dysfunctional relationship between a 25 year old female and an 18 year old kid. If it was a 25 year old man manipulating an 18 year old female most people would consider that distasteful. Everyone knows there is a maturity gap between women and men, so lets call it a ten year "maturity difference". There were bad times/incidents, but it was at the fault of both parties. They both really cared about each other, and Im sure still do wether they would admit it or not. It is not your fault that you don't know the truth. I would be happy to discuss this with you if you would be open to talking. My goal is not to bash you for your opinions but to merely try to persuade you to reverse your opinion of a young man that was set to graduate early with excellent grades, excelled in sports, and had a seasoned grasp of what he wants to do in life. It is your blog, and I support free speach whole heartedly. I must say reading your misinformed opinion leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I assure you winding up in the paper, and putting his family through this was not his intention. I won't bash the victim for fear that it would deter women who really have been abused from reporting it. Almost everyone has someone in their family, wether they know it or not, who, has suffered from such a heinous crime. This is not the case in this instance. This was an emotionaly distraught woman that made a poor decision in the heat of the moment. I wouldn't have blamed her if she had keyed his car, busted his window, or even had her dad/brother/friend rough him up a little. But falsely accusing a man of something as heinous as rape? That crosses the line... I remember how strong the feelings of love, betrayal, and pain were in youth. Knowing more about the situation than you(not bragging bc the facts haven't been made available to you and that is horrible in itself) I can confidently say if I had an 18 year old daughter I would be honored to let Mr. Griffin take her on a date. But I would make him come pick her up at my house, and introduce himself as a man as it should be done. Unfortunately that is not the dating world these days. And it is very common occurence for men to have 3 sexual encounters a week with 3 different girls. I myself unfortunately have indulged in such sins. I must blame it on hormones, the ingorance of youth, and poor judgement. Men are not perfect, rape is tragically not an uncommon crime, and absolute truth doesn't exist in the world of men. But I have heard through 3rd parties not associated with either the accuser nor Mr. Griffin that if the accuser could have retracted her accusation without being charged with filing false charges she would have. It is just so much easier to pose as a victim that never received justice than to admit a mistake was made in the heat of a moment and face the criminal and civil ramifications of that mistake like an adult. Who would be brave enough to own up to a mistake like that? Unfortunately I would do the same thing in her shoes right now... as would most. But looking at just the facts it is pretty obvious what has happened.
ReplyDeleteMr Russel I am a Christian and I have a problem with the fact that you would be honored to have a man with such a sordid past, take your daughter out. As a Christian momma I raised both my son and daughter as taught them about abstinence from the very beginning, when they were very young and first began to ask about sex. I also sent them to a Christian middle and high school that supported our Christian values. There is no reason why a Christian young man can not wait until marriage to have sex. The world has changed but God's ways do not change. I will say that most Christian men who practice abstinence tend to get married very young; and this is what my son did. If a man with such a sordid past came to my house to pick up my daughter this momma would grab him by the ear and send him on his way, with instructions not to return or else. I have always told my daughter she does not have to settle for a man who has been around the block too many times. Even if Mr Griffin is not guilty of this crime,he is still not a moral person.
ReplyDeleteWho are you people? Do you know anything except what you think in your negtive brains? Do you not realize or care that Mr Griffin has a fine Mother, Father, and extented family that love him who are reading this crap? Have any of you considered how painful and expensive this situation has been? Does Shoalanda Speaks and there supporters have any concern about hurting people and there future? Do any of you know Mr Griffin or his accuser? Where you there, did you see what happen? Who are any or you to determine who is a moral person? "Judge not less you be judged". If charges were dropped by 18 people who learned everything about what happen, who are you to question that? What if you are wrong and Mr Griffin is a saint and his accuser commited a crime? If that is the case, who has been punished? Certainly not his acuser, she has lost nothing, you don't even know her name. There is always two sides to every story, have any of you tried to learn about the other half of this one?
ReplyDeleteYes, we know her name thanks to a "wonderful, caring" commenter who wanted to publish it. We would never do so. As for Mr. Griffin's future, he is the one who has hurt it, not us. We've simply presented his past brushes with the law. For the record, no one here has ever been arrested for assault, rape, attempts at such, etc. Many people make it through their entire lives without one single accusation, much less three. Think about it.
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ReplyDeleteShoalanda Speaks, this is the most pathetic piece of journalism I have ever seen. Before you make presumptions of someone, their actions, or their character or morals, maybe you should know a little more about the situation than what you read on the internet. You have done no research, talked to any police, officials, the accuser, Mr. Griffin, nor seen any court documents or police reports. You have merely read other websites, and reiterated what you have read onto you own site with your own negative connotation of Mr. Griffin. Fact of the matter is, no one knows what happened. Not you, not the people reading and commenting on this, not even the police and attorneys that worked the case. The only people that truly know what happened that night are Mr. Griffin and his accuser. Looking at what we do know, the grand jury failed to indict Mr. Griffin based on the evidence of THIS CASE. Obviously, there was not even enough evidence for this case to go to trail, so I would say that is better than going through trial and being found "not guilty."
ReplyDeleteFurthermore, you should not comment on Mr. Griffin's past, because again, you do not know what happened. However, the people close to Mr. Griffin or others involved do know what happened, and there is nothing to be found. There was no incident with a girl in high school, merely a young girl who made a fool of herself in front of many. When first asked by a teacher at their high school if Mr. Griffin had attacked or hurt her in any way, she replied "no, not at all." It was not until she returned to her friends, embarrassed and ashamed of making a fool of herself, that she said there was a problem. As for the second incident, it was NOT a restraining order. It was a cease and desist order that any one may file for any reason. All this means is that Mr. Griffin would not be allowed to contact this person for any reason, and vice versa. However the two continued to date for 6 months after this order was filed, so there was obviously not too big of an problem there. And thirdly, the incident we all know about, and the reason we are reading this slanderous and libel blog, was the rape and sodomy charges. Well there was obviously nothing there either, as one can only assume by the failure to indict.
Truth be told, Mr. Griffin probably does not treat women the way they should be treated. I'm sure, as any other college, fraternity man does, he merely has sex with them with them and wants nothing more, leading them on and hurting their feelings. I'm sure he does not treat them with a great deal of respect as he should. I agree he should do none of those things, however, this does not make the accusations true nor does it make him a rapist. Nor does it give you any ground to write such a pathetic, one-sided, libel blog as you have done.
I guarantee you Mr. Griffin has learned his lesson about not treating women with respect, but it DOES NOT make those heinous accusations true.
Actually, we have spoken with police in Muscle Shoals. They admitted the case would be "iffy," but also believed Griffin to be guilty. As we've said in other comments, to be falsely accused three times is quite a record. We've sure Bailey is not alone in her conclusions.
DeleteYou are actually admitting on this blog that the police told you that this case would be "iffy". Does that mean they knew in the beginning that something wasn't quite right about her statement? And who are you that the police would even discuss this case with you? What they believed, what about the evidence? I don't know about anyone else but after reading the comments on Bailey's blog and now this that I don't think the public has a clear picture at all about any of this.
DeleteNo, it simply means it's harder to prove rape when those involved have been in a sexual relationship. We have sources at all police departments; if you were a regular reader, you would know this.
DeleteAre the police not subject to privacy laws?
DeletePolice, and other public officials, will speak on the promise of anonymity. This is usually because they want the public to know some facts in a certain case or because they are unhappy with their superiors for whatever reason...or because we have helped them before and now they return the favor.
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